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DEPICTION OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLES IN ‘TWILIGHT’ OUTRAGE NATIVE AMERICANS

Posted February 2nd, 2009 By: Team Switzerland 48 Comments »

Indigenous Portal has written a very interesting article about the anger that Native Americans are expressing over the depiction of Native Americans in the ‘Twilight’ franchise.

 

Below is an excerpt from the article:

Native Americans are outraged over what they hold as deceptions in and around the production of the Hollywood film series “Twilight.”

With the commercial success of Twilight, Hollywood is abuzz with agents molding, fitting, and pushing their celebrity actors to pass as Native Americans.

“The Twilight Series is one of few commercial films, a script, and a story with Native American roles.” said Lydia Ponce. “It is a sad day to see that the big power agents are marketing Filipino and Asian celebrity actors to play Native Americans. These are such rare opportunities. When films like Twilight knowingly and willfully select non-Native American actors to play Native roles, it sends the message that we’re not good enough to represent
ourselves.”

Not so long ago Old Western films hired Caucasian actors who were painted a brownish-red and wore wigs to portray Native peoples. Continued insult and injury further perpetuating bias, stereotypes, and racism, was so very wrong and evil then and now. Hollywood is using the tan spray and hair extensions again.

Twilight Vampire Movie Hollywood agents are instructing their talent to dig and find those ‘Native Roots’ and publicize their newfound Native American heritage in interviews conveniently in sync with current casting needs and trends.

Twilight’s lead actor Taylor Lautner, who allegedly just found his Native American roots, was given the extraordinary opportunity to play the lead in the film well after the “discovery” of his ethnicity.

In a recent MTV interview Lautner stated, “I am part Native American. We learned that through [preparing for] this film. I’m French, Dutch and German, and on my mother’s side, she has some Potawatomi and Ottawa Indian in her.”

However, in a film with such a strong Native American theme, only two actors of Native American decent were hired. But due to reasons unknown, Solomon Trimble (Apache) who played and established the character of Sam Uley, has suddenly lost his role.

Sam Uley’s character has been re-posted onto the Hollywood-casting breakdown, and it is obvious that Hollywood is now looking for a more marketable teen heartthrob celebrity actor to play the more substantial and very desirable part.

To read the complete article, click here.

(Thanks Shewasanicon)

First and foremost: This portion about Solomon being replaced is based purely on speculation. There has NO confirmation on if he is returning, or if he is being replaced. So don’t worry if you’re a fan of his, and don’t rejoice if you’re not a fan of his – because there may not be any truth to that part. (Also note that they mention that Vanessa has auditioned for the role of Leah, which has already been confirmed as false)

Aside from that, I agree with the article. I like Taylor in the role of Jacob, so guess that’s an exception for me – but for some of the other roles, I think it’s important to stay true to Stephenie’s original story and cast Native Americans.

What do you think of this article? Do you think Native Americans should be chosen for roles like Jacob, Sam, Leah, etc.? Or do you disagree with the article?







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  • Sara

    Perhaps Summitt isn’t casting Native Americans because few are auditioning??? Some of the Native American roles are pretty big so I doubt they would just give it to an inexperienced actor just because he/she was in fact Native American. I thought Taylor did an excellent job as Jacob…. I’m not a fan of Vanessa Hudgens as Leah and I thought i read somewhere that Leah wasn’t even going to be in New Moon. Who knows?

  • Tara

    I personally liked Solomon portraying Sam. Sure he’s not really a sexy heartthrob but for me, he looked and acted the part. It felt authentic. I really hope Summit doesn’t cave and hire all thses beautiful people to fill the Native American rolls in the movie without first really looking to the real NAs first.

    Plus the Twilight Saga isn’t High School Musical where every person to grace the scene looks like they are a model or an actor…yes its fantasy based on vampires and werewolves, but having real looking people brought it down more to reality for me.

    I don’t blame Native Americans for being pissed, this is a perfect opportunity for them and they are getting passed over.

    Keep Solomon! No Vanessa Hudgens! No fake Natives!

  • Staar84

    There are plenty of native americans out there, and it always bugs me when a part has a distinct ethnicity, or the ethnicity is important to the plot, and they cast someone and try to pass them off as something they aren’t. Vanessa looks hispanic, even though according to IMDB she’s part native american. I think the casting people’s priority should be native actors, then people who aren’t that could pull it off. It takes something away from the movie when it’s obviously a white guy playing a minority.

  • Ashley

    I agree with the article. I think that Native Americans have never really gotten fair treatment and they are owed at least, to represent themselves in a film. Asians, Pacific Islanders or Filipinos ARE NOT Native American. Just because someone has dark skin, hair and eyes shouldn’t mean they’re up to fill those roles. (Although I am a fan of Taylor Lautner, I think he’s the perfect Jacob)

    I auditioned for a Native American role in the film and DO have Cherokee Indian heritage. I would much rather them pick a real Native American than just use some other ethnicity because the particular person is better looking, will draw in money, or whatever their reason may be.

    Also, I’m really weary about them using a lot of big names in the upcoming movies. Dakota Fanning might be ok as Jane but people like Vanessa Hudgens, who have already been in on a big franchise and are pretty much type cast will not be as good. They made Twilight with a cast of relative unknowns and personally, I think they should do the rest of the movies the same way. I like Vanessa Hudgens in HSM but as the character of Leah, I’m just not seeing it. I just think she’s a bit cheesy.

    Ultimately I think Stephanie Meyer should decide. They are her characters, it’s her story and she knows what these characters look like more than anybody.

  • ally

    I’d love for them to use authentic native americans because it makes the movie so much richer, but I don’t think native americans should take it so personally if they’re not cast – it doesn’t make a statement about anyone’s views except the director’s. There may be reasonable cause. They also should remember that it happens to all races and cultures depicted in movies, not just to native americans.

  • Erika

    I agree fully to what this article is stating! I nod to “Sara”, stating that perhaps no Native American is auditioning because of what the film is portraying or not portraying. Hold true to the books: true Native Americans as the Quilantes (incorrect spelling, sorry) and true Italians for the Volturri vampires. Keep Solomon as Sam and the other actor that was at the beach with him…I can’t find the other actor’s name. Please forgive me for forgetting. For Chris to stay true to the book for NM, then he must seek advice and guidance from Stephanie herself.

  • Al

    No Vanessa Hudgens.
    Use real Native Americans.
    Stay authentic to the book.
    It’s simple.

    I thought Solomon Tremble was alright. In Twilight, he just didn’t portray that he had what it takes to be a dominant figure in the next film. I also think it would be fine to replace him seeing as how he wasn’t really “Sam” in the movie – He wasn’t ever called Sam or mentioned and you didn’t know that he was playing Sam unless you looked at the credits.

  • Ashley

    I don’t think it will be too much of a problem since there is a Native American casting company hired to do the casting of Native Americans for the movie. They know what they’re doing.

    With Jacob, what’s done is done and Taylor’s perfect for that role even if he did find out he had NA heritage after he got the role.

    Just no Vanessa Hudgens!!

    Also, I just want them to hurry up and decide/announce who all is going to be in it & get to filming!
    Can’t wait til Nov. 20!!!

  • Brittany

    I like Taylor Lautner, but I was expecting to see someone Native (or I guess more Native than he is)in the role of Jacob. The first time I went to see the movie was with a friend who is Native and she actually laughed aloud when Taylor first came on screen because he doesn’t look Native in the least.

    I think the casting directors should try their hardest to first cast actual Natives in roles that specify the character as Native; it’s just going to make the story that much more realistic.

    I also think they should keep Solomon Trimble as Sam. He didn’t have a very big part in the Twilight movie, but I’ve seen him in interviews and he seems like a funny guy who could really do well in the part of Sam.

  • Twilighter11

    Casting knows what they are doing. I bet they will find some fresh-faced, raw-talented, unknown Native American actors for the film who may just be the next heart throb. If they don’t recast the guy who played Sam in Twilight it may be due to his abilities as an actor. Everyone assumes it is because he is Native American but there has been a surge of Native American casting calls in the last few weeks for New Moon to specifically relpace and fill Native American roles.

  • Lightning Strikes The Water

    I’m Native American and, yes, I’m angry that Summit seems to have gone out of its way to avoid casting native actors. The studio claimed it searched for almost a year for an actor to play Jacob before they finally decided to go with Taylor. Where else did they look – Mongolia?

    Sara, your response speaks volumes about this issue. There is a general attitude that Native actors have no experience or won’t audition. I understand they are now holding casting calls in Canada – WHY!? I know there are Native nations in Canada but the book is about NATIVE AMERICANS. How about holding the casting calls in places where they can audition? I haven’t heard anything about casting calls in Oklahoma, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Tennessee, Florida, the Carolinas, etc. Hello Summit? Hello Director Weitz?

    Why not ask established Native actors to give recommendations. I’m sure Gil Birmingham who plays Billy Black would be able to help or Graham Greene, Michael Spears, Adam Beach, Rodney Grant, Roger Willie, or the agents who represent Native actors?

    Taylor Lautner is about as much Native American as I am Martian. He is not Native and his constant dancing around the subject is really disgusting and disrespectful. No matter how much the studio wants him to be Native, he’ll always just be a member of the “wanna-be” nation!

    Ms. Ponce is right in the article: they want to cast other cultures for Native roles and it makes us look like we are unable to represent ourselves. I’ll bet if this happened to African Americans or any other culture the outrage would be deafening. Thank you TA for printing this article and offering your support. I am very honored you care – it means a lot.

  • http://www.myspace.com/charlitmoviestar Stephanie

    I know I’m a little ticked off to say the least. But then again I can’t be extremely outraged because I already saw this coming, have seen it happen, and this problem happens again and again in the film world when it comes to Native Americans. I see it all the time being a director myself. For us, Native Americans as a whole, if we want serious urban, modern acting roles we have CREATE them. Write the script, cast ourselves, just make the entire film from scratch ourselves if we want to do serious roles.

    We have to do this all on our own, no help from mainstream America at all. I’ve seen this and I know many Native actors who just to get an acting to do what they love have had to degrade themselves, I think so anyways, to always having to ride a horse with a bow and arrow. True story. And its horrible. In the mainstream film world Natives are only good for extras and ‘cowboys and indians” type of films. And the stories of the Old West are always lies. Native people are not only good for playing ‘savages’.

    And I agree with how Ms. Ponce says they make us looks like we’re not good enough to represent ourselves. Who is better to play Native Americans than Native Americans? No one. And I’m not say this to be discriminatory . I am against discrimination. But if the role calls for a NATIVE AMERICAN than cast a NATIVE AMERICAN.

    I sent in my photo and my film resume. I know I’m not going to get cast. Not even for an extra. I felt it when I sent everything in and got an automated reply e-mail. And I felt it when I found out there were rumors of using a Spanish or Asian girl. Its completely ridiculous! I’m almost full Native American and the last time I checked, being Native American, I wasn’t ASIAN or SPANISH and being spanish or asian doesn’t make you Native.

    And Solomon, I really do hope he gets to stay as Sam Uley. He did sooo much research for the role, writing poetry and songs and learning the language. Meeting with the tribal elders. Major research and dedication. I don’t see how he can be replaced with such dedication so obvious. I also hope Krys stays as well! I know he only had one line in Twilight but I think he deserves a chance to to play Embry.

    The whole idea of using another ethnicity for one SPECIFIC ethnicity is absurd. I just hope they make the right choice and cast Natives as Natives. Stay true to only the script but the books as well. I mean, if Stephenie wrote and created Native American characters in her story than I’m sure that she will want Native Americans to play those Native Americans.

  • creamy

    I could care less whether Taylor has a drop of “Native” blood. I think he is absolutely right for the role. His smile and charisma are exactly what Stephenie wrote about with Jacob. He radiates sweetness. I can’t wait to see some of the really intense scenes betweent Taylor and Kristen.

    As for Solomon, I can barely remember him in the movie. I have to say he does not project even a smidgen of the strenth and power that I read into the character of Sam.

    If an actor can fulfill the role, in these stories that would mean a fictional character, then his bloodline is irrelevant. I don’t think any ethic group is “owed” a part. Taylor worked his rear end off and fought for his part. That included a getting alot of fan support.

    So what’s the problem?

  • Chris

    I think that the studio saying they are looking for native american actors and then holding the casting calls in Los Angeles or Canada is ridiculous. Overall, I thought the casting for Twilight was ab it too Hollywood and politically correct. The film takes place in Forks, Washington, not NYC. So having such an ethnically diverse student body was a stretch. Not to mention that every student portrayed was above average in the looks department. I thought the Cullens were supposed to be inhumanly beautiful. Hard to achieve when everyone looks like they stepped off the cover of a teen mag.

  • Dylan

    They can’t replace Solomon! He’s a great Sam and is already been cast! I hate that they do stuff like that… I really really really hope he comes back though!

  • Sunny

    Taylor Lautner is NOT right for the role of Jacob. He is too short and small and would be even if he gains 100 pounds! The money the studio will have to spend on special effects to make him tall, bulky and older could be spent on other things that would make New Moon even better.

    As for Creamy’s comments…

    1. Solomon had a small part in Twilight because Sam was only in one part of the book. Who cares if YOU don’t remember him in the movie?

    2. If the studio uses special effects to beef up Taylor then they could use them for Solomon, too.

    3. To quote you: Just because Taylor worked “his rear end off” doesn’t mean he’s “owed the role” whether he’s native american or not. Summit only kept him on because you fangirls cried not because he was right for the role.

    4. You need to read the Twilight series again because Stephanie did NOT write Jacob as a sweet character throughout the books.

    I’m not native american but I can understand why it is important for them to play these roles.

  • Karen

    I totally agree with this article and think it is absolutely disgusting that Filipino and Asian actors and actresses are being considered for these roles.It makes it look as if Native Americans aren`t good enough to play themselves.

  • NativeDancer

    OMG! THANK YOU!!!
    My cousin actually JUST sent me this article last night, and I agree completely with it, and that’s not just because I’m half Native.
    You NEED natives to play natives, not white people with self tanner!
    And I REALLY hope Solomon Trimble is still Sam!

    • phoenix

      so sorry he is not i actually know solomon becouse i live in portland and im native i go to naya for therapy and he works there my aunt went to collage with him to and he is really depressed right now and probably would not want u poeple reminding him of loosing his job

  • Cindy

    I completely agree….there are plenty of Native Americans out there that would bring the sense og pride to these roles that they deserve!

  • Bgirl

    I was really disappointed when I read the article above. I agree that Native Americans need to be cast for these roles. I don’t think it should matter if they are looking for them in Canada, though, because Candada is part of North America. And Canada is very near Forks. I think Native American people are the most beautiful people in the world and I can’t understand for the life of me why they would not want to cast full blooded Native Americans. Native Americans just have that proud, regal air about them, that you just don’t see much in other races. Also, I’m really sick of the same old actors. I’m ready to see some new talent.

  • Hannah

    I don’t understand what the big deal is, as long as they look Native-American and are good actors, I don’t understand why they’d be flipping out.

  • Titan

    I’m not Native American and I still think it’s absolutely outrageous
    that they’re not casting the right people for the roles.
    The claim that Solomon Trimble may not be keeping his role as Sam
    is news to me. I really hope he gets to keep it. It’s disheartening
    to see that things like this still happen in today’s world.

    Creamy, this isn’t about YOU. It may not be personal to you but I’m
    sure it means something to Native Americans. It’s not just about
    them getting roles in Twilight alone but having been overlooked in
    other things as well when rightfully they should have been considered.

  • Losgann

    Look, I understand standing up for your heritage and I understand discrimination and the truth not being portrayed in entertainment, having experienced discrimination myself. But in reading about this issue in several places, I have seen only ONE person say they had actually tried to audition. I don’t doubt somebody could or would make up lies about their ethnicity to secure or enhance their image. But if Hollywood had a chance, don’t you think they would grab the first Native American they could find who fitted the role and had the talent to play it – they could turn that into an even bigger media bonanza. Would it please you any better if they cast someone SOLELY because of their heritage?

    This is a ROLE, to be ACTED. It is not owed to anyone, whatever their heritage. And before anybody starts screaming at me, go look up some Native American actors and see how many times they have played Hispanics, Italians, or Arabs… I don’t see anyone screaming “Unfair!” over that. You can say, “Well, they did that because there were no other roles.” EVERY actor goes out for a role because they want or need the job. An actor is supposed to act, and it takes a good actor to pull off a role that is not like his or her normal self.

    Hattie McDaniel, the first black actress to receive an academy award for her role as Mammy in Gone With the Wind, was once criticized because she accepted roles playing domestic staff and she was told she was not displaying a good example for other blacks in entertainment. She replied that when she was playing a maid, at least she was a working actress, and that there had been plenty of times when she had taken on the role of servant for real because no acting jobs were available. She’d rather play a servant than be one. PERSPECTIVE.

    And for the love of god, would you guys let Taylor Lautner enjoy his experience with these movies?? Yes, the guy is short, but he was good, he has worked very hard to keep that role, and unless you can bring in a Native American who is 7 1/2 feet tall and beefed up plus has enough acting experience to carry off this large role, quit whining! That’s all I hear when people complain about this, “he’s short, he’s short, he’s short!” I would be incredibly surprised if they were able to come up with someone who is as tall as Jacob is written.

    Antonio Banderas has played not only Hispanics, but Italians, Arabs, and even a Russian-born-Italian-bred-Frenchman! Nobody is screaming at him to turn down any roles!

    As far as where they talent-search, if you want the role, go to the audition. There is no rule that says every role must be true-cast, if such a thing is possible. They don’t search in Tennessee even if they are casting Andrew Jackson! As far as searching in Canada, that actually makes more sense – it’s far nearer to Forks, WA, than these other places are. If you want to discriminate against what I guess you would call Native Canadians, then Chief Dan George should never been an actor. Do you think he was a good representative of his heritage?

    It’s already been proven that Ms. Ponce flat out lied in her article more than once. Why aren’t people more concerned about they way she is representing Native Americans by skewing the situation to fit her own view – that’s a bigger disservice to NAs than anything else.

    • Ladybug

      First of all, Gone With the Wind was made in 1939. So yes while there were amazing actors in it you have to look at the time period it was made in. The depiction of any race is going to be changed based on the time period the movie is made in. Second, Antonio Banderas is hot, hence he get's roles. He's an amazing actor, but if he gains 40, pounds, gets wrinkly, and goes bald, he's not likely to be cast in much. I'm not saying that I don't agree with what your saying. I'm just saying that the movie business wants what sells. Which is ridiculous because that reduces people to being typecast.

  • Alice D

    I think, from reading comments on this article and comments about who is being cast as who, most of us agree with this article. I think we all pretty much WANT to see great unknown Native American actors cast in these rolls for Twilight. I hope Weitz and company really think this one through.

    I will be pretty mad if they recast Sam Uley’s character…!!!

  • Isolina

    Ok I was REALLY PO when I heard that Taylor was being cast as Jacob in the first movie cuz 1 he doesnt even look a little bit Native American he just looks mixed to me and 2 I think that they should use Native American actors/actress!
    When I found out a couple of weeks ago that Hudgens was going to be playing Leah I was like OMG she is worse than having Taylor play Jacob! Not that these people cant act it’s just that I think that they should act and LOOK the part. And I am also VERY upset about what happened to Solomon. How he got kicked out off the roll of Sam. He was MENT to be Sam he IS Sam!:{ And I am also sad about Krys because he IS Embry and I really hope he stays.
    So really I agree very much with some of the people who have said casting Natives as Natives is the right way to go! I actually was going to write something very similer to what that chick Stephanie wrote! lol!
    I am soo glad to see that so many people are sticking up for the Natives!
    I am not all the way Native my great uncle was half Native American but even though that is pretty far back I feel a connection to all Natives but mostly to the Lokota tribe because that’s what my great uncle was mixed with.
    So I was extremly excited when I saw this artical because finally someone had voiced what me and my friends have been saying from the BEGINING: CAST NATIVES AS NATIVES!

  • twilighter11

    Why is everyone crying about this?

    1. Just because a specific person isn’t recast it is not due to their heritage but their abilities to bring that character to life.

    2. They will be replacing those roles with other actors who are Native Americans.

    3. Taylor is Jacob and will be throughout the series. He is part Native American and everyone is trying to ignore and take that away from him.

    4. We will see a new Sam and the rest of the wolf pack all of which will have some Native blood in them.

    Everyone needs to get on with their lives and let casting do their job.

  • Rain Girl

    Some people seem to be confusing North American with Native American. There are Native Canadian nations and Native American nations and we all live in North America. The Quileute nation is in America and are Native Americans. So it does make a difference where Summit has a casting call for Native American actors.

    A comment to Creamy and Losgann: based on both your comments then it would perfectly right for Leo DiCaprio to play Martin Luther King or Denzel Washington to play Abraham Lincoln because – in your words – it is “a role to be acted and it is not owed to anyone, whatever their heritage.”

    Losgann to answer your question in the first paragraph of your comments: Hollywood did not choose a native actor to play Jacob because because Taylor looked the part so why bother looking for a real Native actor. His original interviews indicated he was not Native but then much later he suddenly discovered he had Native American blood. Give me a break. And YES it would please me if an actor is cast solely for their heritage if it is called for in the movie. That includes all cultures not just Native Americans.

    Also, I would ask Losgann to repond again and tell me what Ms. Ponce lied in the above article…thanks.

    And finally, no I will never stop talking about Taylor not being right for the role for the reason Sunny said in her comments to Creamy and I would add to Losgann, too…Just because Taylor worked “his rear end off” doesn’t mean he’s “owed the role”.

  • Shonna

    It would be refreshing if Summit showed some stones and hired some Native actors. There are plenty out there. Imagine this: entire casts including extras had been found of Native actors for movies in the past. Ever see Thunderheart? Dances with Wolves? Pow Wow Highway? Oh wait, that was mostly a Native film and didn’t get much attention though it absolutely DESERVED it. There are LOADS of Native actors out there – most of whom do not get the attention they deserve. Hire Native = added credibility to the story they’re striving to tell. There WILL be uproar if few/none are chosen.

  • Losgann

    The orginal post of this article points out Ms. Ponce’s misrepresentations about the roles of Sam and Leah. Forgive me if I took that on faith and didn’t double check it.

    If good Native American actors can be cast in the Native American roles, by all means, cast them! But I would be personally insulted if someone cast me for a role SOLELY because of my heritage and not because of my acting ability. And that goes both ways – would you want your opportunities limited because someone said you could NOT be cast for a part because you were not of that heritage? Again, a lot of Native American actors would be out of work. This doesn’t just apply to one ethnic group; see my above examples.

    Discrimination is discrimination is discrimination. If you say all Native American roles must be played by Native Americans, then by the same logic all roles should be cast according to heritage, period. And if you draw lines at the Canadian border, you have two options – either you find Quileutes to play all these roles or you draw those national lines equally and send Robert Pattinson back, since he’s a British actor playing an American role.

    Men used to play women in Shakespeare’s day – for that matter, they still do today and vice versa. Fiona Shaw (Petunia Dursley from the Harry Potter movies) played a fabulous Richard II. Would you also discriminate against age? Leslie Howard and Norma Shearer played Romeo and Juliet in 1936 – he was 43 and she was 34 and they both shined in this classic.

    The problem with discrimination or equality is that no one wants to apply it evenhandedly. I won’t argue it anymore since everybody is so hot about it, but think about it.

  • Nikki

    Sunny…you need to keep up girl. Chris Weitz said he always thought Taylor was right for the role of Jacob(look up his letter he wrote on the matter). As for the “fan girls” crying for it, don’t forget it is the fangirls who supported the film and made it the blockbuster it is. If you don’t like Taylor, fine, but don’t be rude and criticize the very people who made it possible for a sequel in the first place. As for the CGI needed to make Jacob bigger, they would have to do that with anybody they put in that role. NOBODY can have a growth-spurt like Stephenie described in the books. It’s physically impossible.
    As for Solomon, he has not been replaced…as far as he knows. Don’t panic until we get the official word.
    Many of my Native American friends have gone on auditions for New Moon, so I don’t know what the writer of the article is talking about. My friends told me that they sent out casting calls specifically for Native Americans. That’s how they knew about it.
    I’m sure that those of you who come on here know that we shouldn’t believe every article or rumor until it is made official, as Dawn reminds us. The media just likes to get our panties in a bunch.

  • Samantha

    ..people keep saying IF good native american actors can be found. you make it sound like there aren’t any. there are a lot of native american actors out there, but the reason why they aren’t well known like other mainstream actors is because of situations like this where people who aren’t native get cast in native roles. it’s not a matter of anyone being ‘owed’ anything… it’s about having some respect. if you’re going to make a movie that calls for native americans then your priority should be finding native americans to fill those roles. it may seem like a petty cause to people who aren’t native because you don’t even know the history behind it or probably even care to learn about it. you may think that we’re.. (yes i say ‘we’ because I AM Full-blooded native american and my roots can be traced back to Sitting Bull) ..getting mad over nothing.. but i’d say after the attempts at being killed off, having our children taken away and abused, losing most of our culture and even more of our languages, being hearded onto plots of land that no one else wanted and even as recently as when my own mother was born, not even being able to vote or leave our reservations.. i think we deserve the respect and consideration to at least play ourselves in movies.

  • Isolina

    The reason everyone is “crying” about this is because it is a form of dicrimination just like they said in the articl.
    And they said they JUST dicoverd it after everyone started making a fuss about him not being Native. How do you know that he is not making it up?
    Im still just glad that someone who has some power voiced what people have been thinking ever since we found out about the casting of Taylor.

  • Losgann

    I won’t take credit or blame for anyone else’s statement, but when I used the phrase “If good Native American actors can be cast…” I was NOT using the subjective “were,” which implies the “If” is impossible. It was a simple “if then” statement that agreed Native American actors definitely SHOULD be cast for such roles when found. Nowhere did I even imply that this was impossible.

    I have Native American blood myself. I have been discriminated against in the past, not for my Native blood but for other reasons. Every single circumstance you listed and more have been used against my group over history.

    But I stand by what I said; if you are going to exclude all non-Native American actors from said roles you must exclude Native Americans from non-Native roles – you can only slice that loaf one way. Otherwise, you are being hypocritical. If you do take the stance that all roles should be cast according to strict heritage guidelines no matter what, that would seem to be even more disrespectful and inconsiderate in the extreme – what you would be saying in essence is that “You are only capable of playing Native Americans or roles in which heritage is not mentioned at all. So don’t bother seeking roles outside your ethinicity because you are not capable of stretching your acting talents that far.” Replace the words “Native American” with any other ethnicity and see how it sounds. Does that shoe fit any better on the other foot?

    I once worked at a restaurant located in an almost exclusively black community. The company loudly encouraged us to take “affirmative action” and hire every white person who came through the door, their argument being that white customers would see our white employees and would be encouraged to come back. I protested loudly – how racist is that company policy?? One morning when my boss came in, he pointed out a white girl whose register was in the center of the counter and congratulated me on prominently placing her there to draw in white customers. I looked at him dumbfounded and told him I had placed her there because the register was the only job she knew how to do.

    People are just as quick to discriminate FOR a race, a nation, a religion, as they are to discriminate AGAINST it. I am not singling out Native Americans as a group – they just happen to be the group involved here. And yes, I know history, some of it personal history from my grandmother and great-grandmother. What I am saying is to be aware when fighting for freedoms that you can also encumber yourself with limitations. I wish the entire Native American acting community well and hope they do get cast in roles where they can shine. But I am not going to argue this one anymore, since my point is being lost in gross misunderstanding.

  • Hailee

    I mean seriously people. You can’t just throw a few fake and baked actors in there. If their not native american then they will not be right for, or give the role justice. expecially vanessa hudgens. I mean no way she looks mexican and theres no way shed make even a remotly good leah. shes not deep enough to play the character. They just need to interview some NATIVE AMERICAN actors and find someone who really portrays the characters in new moon properly.

  • Native Girl

    Losgann, I find it weird that you think anyone is “arguing” about this issue. We’re having a discussion and that’s very healthy, it allows everyone to learn what both sides are thinking…promotes understanding.

  • MovieLoverSuperFan

    Tons of speculating to know facts, either way if you liked the movie then the actors and all that were involved put the pieces together properly. Please no more crying about how mainstream America does this and does that wrong, it’s mainstream if you want raw it’s not in the mainstream. If the author didn’t see a problem then why should anyone else? If you see a problem don’t support with your wallet, the market dictates. None of you natives can say with 100% certainty that no Native Americans in the history of film has ever played any roles that weren’t of other races. Another thing when you talk about Hispanics or Mexicans there were plenty of Native Americans from North America that acted as Mayans in Apocalypto and pretty much any other roles that have required some Aztec or other South American Native Acting. I don’t know when it happened but for some reason North American Natives Hijacked the term Native as if they are the only Natives on the planet. Movies are story telling and I appreciate great story tellers from whatever race they are from. My 2 centavos.

  • jay

    awesome.

  • Susi Sorglos

    “In a recent MTV interview Lautner stated, “I am part Native American. We learned that through [preparing for] this film. I’m French, Dutch and German, and on my mother’s side, she has some Potawatomi and Ottawa Indian in her.”

    I love this outrageous statement. It makes me wanna laugh out loud.

    He is German? Far out! I am a native German. This man can`t speak German, he doesn`t have a German mentality and I bet that he doesn´t know anything about German customs at all.
    White US-Americans seem to be very obsessed with their so-called “heritage/s”. How comes? Insecurity?

    Yesterday I read a book about Atila the Hun and his hordes who were cruising Europe 1500 years ago and while reading the book I found out that I am partly Hun. I was really, really asthonished. And on my father`s side I am a direct decendant of Adam and Eve. I am so proud of it, too.

    Actually I fully understand that the US- Native Americans actors are totally pissed. There are a lot of good Native American actors around, males and females. Unfortunately they do not get the roles they deserve.

    Cheers from Germany

    Susi

  • Susi

    They could have chosen Nakotah LaRance. He has the talent and the looks. But maybe he looks too Native? So as always Hollywood has chosen the average white boy to satisfy the average white American.
    Boring. As usual.

  • Monique

    twilightersanonymous.com — I am responding to this article, because I understand what the writer is presenting. I am African American and have some Indian too. I am really frustrated by the whole hollywood thing myself. I mean in the Twilight saga, there were really not enough discritption of African Americans. There were some, but not really in a good sense. I mean some was discribed as being either a follower, beast looking without manors and, well you get the picture. In the movie there were four African Americans with very little parts. You have Laurent, who was thought of as being the leader, but then we find out that he was nothing but a follower, the waitress who was polite, but comes of to me as basically a fill in, then you have Tyler (the kid that almost ran Bella over) who basically was childish and they made him a bit ignorant with not really a foundation with the rest of the cast. The fourth African American was a woman who looks as if she was probably Tyler’s mother, she had braids and beads in her hair and was standing by tyler in the hospital. Even then her part was not described and she stood there quietly, while (charlie) basically insult her son and disrespect her. I sometimes wonder if they were non-color how would he have acted. On top of that I just fee that hollywood main attraction is white people…and if you ask me the whole concept of the werewolves vrs the indians is nothing but cowboy and indian movies all over again, which pisses me off.

    I also just believe that no matter what people of color do, we will never fit into “their world” and it is so pointless to even try, because they really don’t want us there, but they pick these “fill in” parts of their movies to attract us and make it seem like they are not being racisist, but they are.If you think about it everywhere you turn the majority of the advertisements are made up of “them” Huggie commercials, soap and hell even sitcoms…when was the last time that you have seen a major film that had a woman of color being a hero? I tell you Halle Berry and???, it is like every so many years that’s when they start doing something, but even then it is not enough. All women and men of color have it hard in this world, especially America…, we need to have our own s–t and leave them alone, we also need to stop getting sucked into the lie with these movies as well as the te-lie-vision. I have learned both Indian and African history and also other non-white history, we are some strong intelectual people and I know that if we all stick together we can do something big to make us shine, like it should be.

  • Kandy

    Your all stupid to complain about this, ignoring what’s in front of your eyes.
    If only Native Americans can play American roles, then surely only American Actors should play American roles?
    Robert Pattison, back to England with you!

    See what i mean? Are any of you calling for Robert Pattisons dismissal? No!

    Hypocrites.

    • Ladybug

      You’re missing the point entirely. We're talking about ethnicity not nationality. The problem isn’t what people sound like it’s what they look like. Movies like twilight don’t look at the ethnicity of their actors, they look at what will sell. I think that after Twilight came out Taylor Lautner was in jeopardy of losing his job because he wasn’t muscular enough. So he buffed up to keep his role. The sad thing about actors is that they are replaceable. You get someone who looks dark enough or light enough to fit a role and boom there ya go! Doesn’t matter what there ethnicity really is, just matters if they can look like the description they are given by Hollywood. On the other hand you sort of have to just expect this from Hollywood, I mean it’s not like they have a track record of correctly representing any ethnicity.

  • Bri

    I don’t mind them using mixed-blood Natives, as I am one myself. But I do agree with the fact that this could have been a great opportunity for Natives who actually have tribal attachment to get noticed in the mainstream. While it is wonderful that he knows of his Native ancestry, and I hope he is proud of it, it probably would have been better to use one who actually knows of their ancestors and has grown up with Native roots.

  • Blackbritish

    The solution is quite simple,Native Americans,African Americans or any other minorities should write their own stuff.

  • Raven

    I must say that i beleive it does depend on the storie line. When you produce a movie with strong native american beleives it is very important to have real Native Americans playing rhe roles. In Dances with Wolves do you think they would have used non-Native Americans espeacially for the main charectors? Of coarse not! That is what made the movie so great. My daughter is a huge Twilight fan. Her and her father are both enrolled members of the Cherokee Nation Eastern Band. There are atleast, last time we checked the enrolment list 15,000 + enrolled members just in Cherokee, NC alone. That is only one tribe. There are seven clans in the Cherokee tribe, my daughter and husband belong to the wolf clan this is due to being born from the mother from the wolf clan & so you can imagine the questions my daughter had. Especially since she has known for many years about shape shifting and she knows that all the seven clans have there jobs and what there jobs are. The wolf clan are the warriors of the tribe the protecters, so yes I strongly beleive it is very important to have real Native Americans representing there culture and beliefs not only for people of other cultures but also for there own people, the Natives. We all know that this is more of a fairy tale love story, but it is important i thing to give Native Americans a chance to represent themselves espeacially when the story is about a true Native American believe and there are thousands of wonderful Native American actors out there. They have evolved just like the reast of us….

  • India Profunda

    Yes.  Appropriation has hit the ceiling.  Away with simulations and monologues of dominance.  We have spent enough centuries watching the imaginary and having it be sold back to Indigenous people as truth.  If you are not Indigenous–please don’t sell yourself as such.

 

 

 
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