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Posted April 29th, 2009 By: flick 34 Comments »

You’ve read the book, seen the movie and watched the DVD. Is there anything about the movie that you wish were different? TA fan JW Healy explains the relationship between Edward and Bella.

 

It still bothers me by JW Healy

I love the Twilight Universe. I read the book six or so times. I saw the movie in theaters eight times. I bought three copies of the DVD and watched them several times since I brought them home. However, even though I clearly love the movie, there’s something about it that still bothers me.

To me, the filmmakers didn’t take enough care to establish the unbreakable bond of love that develops between Bella and Edward. “Develops” is the operative word here. In the movie, director Catherine Hardwicke and screenwriter Melissa Rosenberg devote exactly ONE scene to this critical development. (It’s the scene in the biology classroom when they first meet.) According to Hardwicke’s audio commentary, this was the key scene for them – it was the place where Bella and Edward’s love is captured. In fact, Hardwicke admits they all were nervous about shooting this scene because of its importance to the story and also because it happened to be scheduled on the day Stephenie Meyer was going to visit the set (turns out, a conflict forced Meyer to change the day of her set visit). Clearly, the filmmakers recognized the importance of this bond between Bella and Edward. So why did they limit it to ONE scene? Everyone knows that falling madly, deeply, “unconditionally and irrevocably” in love with someone cannot be done in the space of a one-hour class.

Let’s take a look at the source material. In the novel, Meyer takes her time establishing the connection between the two young lovers. For example, in addition to the crucial biology class scene, there’s the cafeteria scene when Edward calls Bella over and they “dance” around each other as they try to learn more about the other without divulging too much about themselves. This simple scene serves to heighten the interest between them in addition to providing critical character development. Then there’s the blood typing scene. It is the catalyst for yet another important protracted conversation between Bella and Edward as they get to know each other further. It shows Edward’s attraction to Bella and Bella’s growing love for Edward. These scenes also showcase Bella’s personality (she actually gets angry with Edward – she’s not a pushover! – and we see shadings of Edward’s inner conflict. What about the restaurant scene, when Bella asks him questions that he’s afraid to answer? This not only shows Bella’s interest but also Edward’s nervousness about his real identity. While this scene was in the movie, it was hopelessly truncated. Then there’s the scene when it’s Edward’s turn to ask Bella questions. In addition to developing their growing connection, these scenes add layers of character development and also show a bit of humor (a trait that was completely excised from the script).

I understand the practical reasons behind eliminating these scenes – movies are supposed to be fast-paced and fit within a specific time constraint; “talking heads” scenes can be dreadfully dull; much of this material is potentially repetitive. However, I will argue that their love connection should have been given more time to develop than just one short scene. The beauty of Bella and Edward’s love is that it is “unconditionally and irrevocably” deep, so why not give it the depth and passion it deserves.

Don’t get me wrong. I love the movie – will always love the movie – but this aspect of it still bothers me. I tried to ignore it all those times when I sat in a dark theater. I tried to pretend it didn’t bother me when I watched it at home. But, in going back and reading the book again, I realize that this early part of their relationship – when all the awkwardness of teens in love comes to the fore; when Bella’s confusion over her deep attraction for this handsome man won’t abate; when Edward’s inner turmoil is brought to the surface; when we get to see their love develop into something more mature than a simple teen romance – is what makes Twilight so special.

Yes, it still bothers me…and I guess it always will.

CONCLUSION: What do you think? Do you agree with me or do you think the filmmakers gave their budding romance enough time to develop?

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  • jen

    I totally agree with you! That is the one thing about the movie that really bugged me as well (and the fact there was no I Love You.) I miss the fun chapters in the book at school when they’re talking & getting to know each other. That’s why the book is better and will always be better than the movie. (I like the movie just fine & am excited for NM.)

  • BrandyLynn

    Couldn’t agree more! I love the movie as is but I wish they would of spent just a little more time on Bella and Edwards relationship. It would of made the movie much better.

  • Melissa

    Oh man, preach it. My thoughts exactly. I think I would love the movie no matter what just because I love the books so much, but I would have liked to see more of the relationship development. I feel like I have to explain the depth of their relationship when I am watching the movie with people that haven’t read the book (I may have forced it on my husband, mom, etc)
    Could they at least have thrown in the blood typing scene?
    Still, I could not be any more excited for New Moon!!

  • Jmy

    I agree with you so much! I was actually looking forward to the 20 questions, the kiss scene when Bella faints, a REAL meadow scene… Alice Cullen actually having lines, atleast one “I love you” in there somewhere… Yeah, Edward says “You are my life now.” but that’s not “I love you, Bella.”

  • Tricia

    I agree. I actually enjoy a movie with good dialogue that is well-filmed and well-acted. But, like many things, films are mostly made for the middle of the bell curve. I look forward to the BBC produced, multi-episode miniseries that will come about in 20 years or so…haha.

  • Hailey

    That’s Exactly How I Feel.
    I’ll Watch That Movie A Thousand Times,
    I Love It.
    But I Absolutely Hate It At The Same Time.
    I Hate Saying That.
    I Almost Wish They’re Just Remake The Whole First Movie,
    Because It’s Terrible.
    And I Guess I Only Truly Love It Because It’s My Favorite Book, Now A Movie.

    It’s So Annoying To Watch, Then Reread, And See How Many Crucial Things They Left Out.
    It Was Like Bella Repeated The Famous Lines On The Back Of The Book, And Boom… They Were In Love.
    Where’s The Proof?????

    And What Happened To Jaspers Power?
    And Jacob, And Him Building This Car?
    Mikes Jealousy?
    What About Each Individual Story Of The Vampires?
    Will They Even Include Those Now?
    I Honestly Believe Catherine Did A Horrible Job.
    And I Also Wonder If We Should Be Blaming The Melissa As Well.
    She’s The One Who Wrote The Lines.
    idk. The Parts They Cut Off, Were Much More Crucial Then The Awkward Scene Of Charlie And Bella In The Kitchen. Or At The Diner. Those Were Almost Pointless.

    I’m Incredibly Angry About It.
    But Yet, I’ll Watch The Movie Almost Every Night Before Bed.

  • Midori

    I also agree that the book is better in Twilight. I always wondered why the words “I love you” was never spoken in the movie. Edward said those words to Bella in the book, which made it more meaningful. In Twilight, I don’t think it actually brought the fact that Edward and Bella were in love. They just went through the motions, it wasn’t the acting…it was the script. As far I heard, NM sounds like it’s going to be far better than Twilight. I’m looking forward to seeing how Bella handles Edward’s absence. Also, one of favorite scenes is when Bella & Alice save Edward in Volterra.

  • el

    i hope someday there will be a miniseries of the twilight saga, along the lines of what was done with ‘pride and prejudice’ in the mid 90′s
    with colin firth and jennifer ehle. then there should be sufficient time for all these missed scenes we want to see over and over and over…

  • Barb

    I could not agree more…I am so tired of explaining the holes in the movie to my non-reading friends, and let me tell ya they have alot of questions. I think it’s sad that people who don’t read the books seem to like the movie more, probably cause they don’t know what they are missing. They totally should have had an I love you, and how are they going to explain Jasper’s power now? Just” oh by the way”, I hate that. Thanks for tellin it like it is!

  • NATA420

    I ABSOULTELY 100% AGREE. I LOVE THE MOVIE TO PIECES (AT LEAST I DO NOW), BUT THE BACK AND FORTH AND GROWTH BETWEEN EDWARD & BELLA LEAVES A BIG WHOLE IN THE STORY – AND MY HEART. THE THING THAT SUCKS YOU INTO TWILIGHT IS IN THE BUUILDING OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP THROUGH LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS AND SITUATIONS THE MOVIE GOER NEVER EXPERIENCES. WITHOUT ALL THAT YOU HAVE A HALF TOLD LOVE STORY.

  • http://twilightersanonymous.com/ta-talks-back-it-still-bothers-me-edward-and-bella-twilight.html love2twilight

    I went to see the movie with my daughter who had read all the books. I hadn’t read any of them. I didn’t even really know what the movie was about. And I liked the movie. BUT, when we got out, I asked my daughter a million questions. I had a lot of questions about the rest of the Cullens, because I don’t think the movie did them justice at all. And I didn’t really feel the depth of the love Edward felt for Bella either. So my dauther lent me her book. And then I understood things, but was disappointed in the movie, because the book was so much better. (BTW..I liked the book so much my daughter bought me the whole series as an early Mother’s Day gift!)

  • Lyllyanna

    My Word, I thought I was the only one who thought the same thing! I only saw the movie once in theater and at home. I buy it to go with my collection, but I never like to watch. I’m always hoping that it will turn out more like that book. I was so disappointed in it. I understand that the in Hollywood they had to do some thing different. But come on people! Like they added Alice in killing James, understandable. Or where they had Charlie and Bella eating out all the time, once more understandable. You’re totally right, they love between them was excessively fast. In the whole movie, the two never even said ‘I love you’. I didn’t like the “meadow scene”. Does anyone remember when Edward first bought Bella to school to kinds show people that they were together. I hate that they made Edward so cocky, I guess you can say. Also, if you see they cut the Edward’s family and you see Alice upset along with everyone else. I mean, they restaurant scene was totally fake and they should of put more of the book in that scene. They should of put the whole scene between Jacob and Bella. That was an important scene. It showed that they tow had a strong connection. I mean they should that in the beginning, but in the book, Bella never remembered Jacob. They should of added more to the hospital scene. More dialogue between them. And at the very end when Bella and Edward go to the prom, Meyer’s stated that his family was there and we never saw them there. We saw that girl Victoria, but not the Cullen. I mean it was bad, in my eyes. Why did that do?
    Also, remember in the both of the books, Midnight Sun and Twilight? Well it said that Alice loved Bella and was dying to meet her. They did show that in the movie. I hated the fact that they showed Edward and Bella “talking”, but you couldn’t here them. I hated that! They should of showed the first night that Edward was with Bella. I mean they didn’t have special effects like New Moon. So where did all the money go? I mean I remember Stephanie Meyer said that this book was her baby. The why didn’t she take more control?
    It bothered me too!

  • cleanslate00

    I agree! I actually saw the movie before starting the books, so you can imagine how pleasantly surprised I was when reading Twilight. I really hope they do a better job in New Moon. I am really looking forward to Bella and Edward’s reunion in New Moon. Hope it captures the true essence of Edward and Bella.

  • Lacie

    I totally agree! I love the movie, but am so disappointed with all the most important scenes left out. The blood typing scene, the resturant, and all the questions Edward had for Bella. And most of the humor was left out! That makes me so angry! The scene at the lunch table when Edward is talking about Emmett’s favorite — “the grizzly”. Or when Bella first meets the Cullens and Edward tackles her on the couch — what Alice said was just hilarous!!! I think what I missed the most was the development of Bella and Alice’s relationship. I hope NM is better.

  • Leslie

    I really liked this article, because on occasions I feel the same way. I wasn’t able to see Twilight at the theater, but since I’ve bought it, I seem to have forgotten all the other movies in my library. I read the books some weeks ago and having convinced my husband to read them I’ve found myself enveloped by this wonderful story again. Unfortunately, the movie industry is constricted by so many factors, that leave readers wanting when a book is translated to the big screen. But I have to say something in defense of our dear Edward. He does tell Bella “I love you”, or at least I interpret it that way. Right before Bella takes off with Alice, and Edward says his famous words “You are my life now”, he looks at her and whispers something that the audience can’t hear. I have seen the scene many, many times and I can’t be sure, but I believe it is “I love you”. Could anyone give some feedback on this idea?

  • PJ

    I agree completely, and am thrilled to finally see others in agreement. For the longest time I felt I was the only one who believed Harwicke’s direction was pretty poor and without a doubt sloppy. I’m reserving judgement on Rosenberg’s script for the moment. There were a lot of unnecessary scenes in Twilight that did nothing to move the story forward (anything with Renee, and what was that scene when Bella sees Waylon’s body and does the flashback thing?!) I have high hopes for Chris Weitz and New Moon.

  • Erika

    THANK YOU!!! for disgussing this. I agree 100%, all the my friends who saw the movie and did not read the book, always argue about it being too fairytale. When their relationship IS NOT. In the books it’s all about the cute, butterflies in the stomach getting to know each other. In the movie she finds out what he is and they both fall in love instantly. They needed to take time to make their bond more realistic. I was dissapointed that they didn’t put the cafeteria scene of them sitting by themselves. I loved that scene and I think the audience would have loved it too. They should have cut the cafe scenes (cause they’re not in the book) and put more of them getting to know each other.

  • FC

    EXACTLY!! when me and my sister went to see it for the first time(first midnight showing too!) we watched and when it ended our friends mom said “how did you like it” and we both said “we hated it. it was terrible” now we were being a little harsh because we ended up seeing it two more times But they left out too much important stuff. Um HELLO?! Jasper doesn’t just try not to kill Bella the whole time! he CALMS people(changes emotions whatever.) and I to understand that they had to fit it into 2 hours but I’m pretty sure they could have cut out the CLIMBING TREES part. i mean seriouslyyyy there was no climbing of trees AT ALL in any of the books. and when they got to the sence in the Hotel room it was stupid because Bella just sneaked right past Jasper and Alice. they would have been able to see/hear/smell her.

    Love the books
    not fond of the movie
    not fond of Catherine Hardwick or the writer.

    New Moon will(hopefully) be a LOT better.

  • nicole

    I agree that not enough time was spent really going into how much they need each other. I understand that there is a certain time-frame for telling the story, but the crucial scenes between Bella and Edward were left out. Certain scenes could have been shortened to allow more time for what was in the book for the development of the relationship. It just seems too much like an overnight romance instead of the weeks of nothing from Edward then all of a sudden he peaks his interest again, etc. . . I am still a fan tho and recommend it to everyone I know. I still do mention also, that the books are better and there is much more detail. I can’t wait for New Moon. It is my favorite book, so an automatic liking is inevitable, but let’s hope they spend more time developing Bella’s and Jacob’s relationship so that the triangle can really come into play in Eclipse. . .

  • Emily

    I definitely agree with you!
    I love the books, and love the movie as well, but as much as I love it it could have been done so much better.
    The one thing I hated about how their love was portrayed, was that they made it seem so harshly stalker like, rather than the true love that it was in the books(i mean yes, in the book it was still a little more rough than a flowers and candy romance, but not nearly what the movie made it). And also like people have already said, they spent so little time on their relationship being built, and in the film its definitely noticeable. When they spend time together, it still seems so awkward.
    Also, not really having to do with their relationship, but, i HATE how they did the running when Bella was on Edward’s back. Ugh… it looks awful. My mom, who has never read the books, saw the portion when Edward was taking Bella to show her his skin in the sunlight and she said “I didn’t know vampires could fly.”
    Anyways, when i first read twilight, before the movie, i read it so fast that i didn’t really realize what i had forgotten, and just how much they had left out when i went back and read it the second time(and took more time to read it). And, it really made me frustrated at how much was cut, and how much the changed the feeling of absolutely everything.
    But, i still love the movie, i saw it 3 times in theaters, and have watched it a couple to a few times a week since it came out on DVD. I am hopeful that the next one will be much better, and that so many of the critical scenes aren’t cut out.

  • twilighter4life

    I agree 100% TOO……My friend just called me today to tell me she finished the Twilight Book which she read after seeing the movie and she was so mad that they left out a good bit of the details regarding the relationship with Edward and Bella. It was a huge mistake bc it allows you to grow attached to our favorite couple (Edward and Bella) and believe that very few people might meet their soul mate.

  • looneygirl

    FINALLY!! someone has put into words how I felt since I walked out of the cinema the first time. My passion for Twilight comes from the passion in the book. That love between Bella and Edward that takes your breath away. I know movies will never compare to books but there were some essential scenes that shouldn’t have been done VERBATIM. For me the meadow scene in the movie was a big letdown. Where was the touching? Bella marvelling at his beauty and him revelling in her touch? And what about all the rest of the touching? Edward was always touching her face, kissing her wrist…dazzling her! (And don’t even get me started on the Prom!! My fav line “oh I’m with the Vampires of course”…didn’t even get said.)
    The movie, as much as I love it, fails to show that deep connection between Bella and Edward. I too have had to commentate and answer questions when watching with someone who hasn’t read the books. I just hope that they rectify that for New Moon or it’s going to look bizarre that he is willing to die for her and she for him.

  • Katrina

    Wow! I totally agree. I loved the book and I loved the movie largely because it was the book brought to the life. But the movie taken on it’s own merit was lacking. The whole point was the unbreakable and unalterable love between Edward and Bella and how it grew and flourished. In the movie, they actually spent the least time on that point. We went from Edward glaring at Bella to Edward talking amiably to Bella to Edward and Bella being awkward around each other to them being madly in love in the span of very few words. It really comes across as an abrupt teen crush and somewhat unexplainable.

    They spent more time on Bella’s relationship with Charlie than they did Bella/Edward’s relationship. I get that they needed action, but they really needed to establish the foundation of and strength of this love.

    Because it came across as a more shallow love in the movie, I wonder how the heck they build on that in the next movie. I mean, how can the audience understand how Bella is completely destroyed if they don’t understand the depth of this love?

    They also hit paydirt on the amazing chemistry between Rob and Kristen and should have spend more time capitalizing on it.

  • Chelle

    I absolutely agree! Im a new addict of the Twilight saga, just saw the movie a few weeks ago. i was told by my mom, who watched my dvd first, that it was a beautiful movie so i had very high expectations. after watching it the first time, i was confused as to how i felt about it. there was definitely something very charismatic about it, but i had so many questions. 2 days after i saw the film i received the book for my bday and i got so emotionally involved right away. the movie was definitely not made for people who hadn’t read the book. so much was left out! the movie didn’t give enough for non-readers to truly care about the characters the way the book was written. but after having read the book, i can now appreciate the movie a lot better knowing what went on behind the story. i’m still a fan no matter what though! i hope they do a much better job with New Moon esp, for me personally, i consider it to be the heart of the saga.

  • featherhead

    Where was the “Bella you’ll be the death of me, I swear you will”
    I felt this scene would have demonstrated how much Edward really WANTS her but is trying so hard to restrain. It wouldn’t have killed them to have added another romantic scene you know, I mean how much would that have cost them? If anything, it would have made us love the film a little more cuz we would’ve gotten a little more passion. Geez…I hope New Moon at least tries to make up for some of the passion that was lost in Twilight. If Melissa Rosenberg screws the next two screen plays up NM and Eclipse, it’ll be her fault because she’s omitting all these important parts of book. Remember, she writes the script people and it’ll be her fault if anything is left out.

  • Rose

    I totally agree, in the movie they fell in love way too quickly, and edward’s love for bella was an obsessive stalker love like someone said before, not the true love he feels for her in the book.

  • Victoria

    wow lots of agreement on this!!! haha. i am 100% in total agreement with this article. while i watch the movie almost everyday, it misses the crucial points of them falling in love. i was actually just thinking bout this in the shower bout 10 minutes ago and you dont fall in love over 2 conversations where she doesnt even know what he is. i love the movie however and always will but im actually glad i saw the movie before reading the book coz i would have been disapointed the other way round. lets say im holding out a lot of hope for new moon. dont let me down Chris!!

  • Lori

    100% agreement! Myself and others hated the movie when we first saw it, Hated it. The number 1 question was “where is the love?” and it didn’t even seem like they liked each other. One point I even said it seemed like an mtv movie. Then we saw it again and vented all over again. Ended up forcing ourselves to like it and it worked lol. By the 12th time at the theater it was the best movie ever lol.

    I still get bothered too and yes they should’ve made them sit together at least once during lunch.

  • Caitlin

    I completely agree! I really couldn’t have said this better myself. Though, it didn’t take me as long to figure out why something about the movie was bothering me. Still, I wish they would have done thing differently.

  • Caroline

    I definitely agree. I loved the movie, but sometimes I wonder if I love the movie as much as I do because I have read the books and know that it wasn’t just your usual teen love story (and also my love for RPattz). Every time I watch the movie, it just feels like they rushed through the important scenes and opted to put more emphasis on the action scenes instead. All of those scenes you mentioned I wish they would have put into the movie, as well as the scene where Edward and Bella are driving in the dark after Port Angeles. I don’t care how long the movie would have been if they had put in those important scenes. I would have watched Twilight if it were 4 hours long or even 10 hours long, but I know the average moviegoer probably wouldn’t have the patience to sit through that, however, I think with those scenes, they would have understood Edward and Bella’s love better.

  • brittni

    I couldn’t agree more! The book is more detailed than the movie , but it’s defiantly one of the best movies I’ve ever saw. And the books, well I’ve never really enjoyed reading until I started reading these books. I love them!!!

  • full_forever

    I also think theres something missing in the movie, some magic from the book.
    I actually watched the movie and then read the book. I remember I watched it in the theater with people who had read the book first, and while I came out of the movie literally floating, and with a smile that I couldnt wipe off my face, they werent as happy.
    when I read the book I understood why.
    to be honest, my main complaint about the movie is everyone seems so sad. in the book they all have a sense of humor and laugh a lot, in the movie theyre always so serious! but anyway…I love both the book and the movie =P

  • creamy

    JW Healy – Surely you and I were the same person at some point in the past. How else would it be possible for you to replicate my thoughts so completely?

    I am late repsonding to this thread because this topic is such a sore point for me. I too love the Twilight Universe. I admit to multiple readings of each book. I saw the movie in the theatre and have three copies of the DVD which I have seen multiple times. I love watching all the extra scenes, they add so much.

    However, I am unable to say I love this movie. The story, the characters, without question are close to my heart. I say that over any book I have ever read, I love this series, and that is a telling statement. It goes beyond the simple words.

    The filmmakers defintely missed the boat on adapting this book. Yes, the characters are there, it seems to take place in the right locations, and the ending was pretty close.

    With all that, this was such a bare-bones attempt to portray Stephenie’s Twilight. I can only compare it to a person starving to death. The minimal is there (body, organs, skin and bones), but no substance. Nothing that fills it out, no soul or depth. It isn’t the complete being.

    You hit all the major points I looked for but did not find. Yes, film is a different medium, and some changes are unavoidable. But mass deletions and a complete change of focus WAS avoidable. This movie seems to be focused on ticking off a list of requirements with no cohesion whatsoever.

    When I listen to the commentary, I grind my teeth. I am becoming too practiced at hissing. I believe Catherine Hardwicke worked hard on this project. The problem was her vision was way off. And don’t get me started on the script.

    I empathize with that seeing the room swim in red thing. Maybe too much.

  • Nikki

    I think you have it said.
    I absolutely love the movie, but the book is wayyyyy better. Their love gives off more intensity in the book than is offered in the movie. and the restaurant scene should have had more in it. Bella was way jealous of the waitress and Edward shrugged the waitress off. there was so much awkwardness in those scenes

 

 

 
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