‘BREAKING DAWN’: VAMPIRES AND PREGNANCY – HOW DOES THAT WORK?

When you first read Breaking Dawn and realized that Bella was pregnant, how did you react?

I thought it was kinda weird but I was happy for Bella and Edward! (-:

Had you ever wondered about fluids in the bodies of the vampires?

Umm…no. lol

What do you think about Stephenie’s reasoning behind whether or not it was possible?

Since vampires are not alive, wouldn’t their “fliuds” be “not alive” as well?

Though I can appreciate where Stephenie comes from on the angle of the story I have to accept the pregnancy angle entirely on the fiction factor alone. It makes absolutely no sense that Edward who is NOT alive in any way outside of paranormally can father a child if nothing in him can be alive- such as reproductive cells.

If vampires don’t process food, liquids, oxygen, how would they possibly have the ability to reproduce cells? And if it’s possible for a male vampire, why not a female? If a male can produce sperm, why wouldn’t females be able to produce eggs?

Makes no sense.

I think Breaking Dawn was the best book out of the four. I was excited when I fond out Bella was pregnant! You subconsciously know that what you are reading is fantasy so anything is possible. Of course when your reading the book you are so into it that it doesn’t come to you until after you put the book down! I never thought about Edward not being alive or breathing,,, I was totally caught up in the story its self..

When you first read Breaking Dawn and realized that Bella was pregnant, how did you react?

I thought, yay, good on you Edward.

Had you ever wondered about fluids in the bodies of the vampires?

No not at all, until someone mentioned it, I was like ahh ,right
but who cares..hello who would not want Edward to father their child
then become a Vampire and live happily ever after, I know I would,lol

What do you think about Stephenie’s reasoning behind whether or not it was possible?
I have just read Stephenie’s reasoning, sound good to me. I just loved reading The Twilight Saga, it is after all FICTION, hellooo…
I really don’t want to analyse books I read too much, it takes the fun out of reading for me. Fiction should be fiction and fun where anything is possible anything can happen, nothing needs to be explained too much or picked apart or analysed.
Leave that to the “realists” of the world. Let them pick on every little thing that “can’t be real” or “explained” leave it to the people who have no “imagination” whatsoever, poor them how boring is their world,ha..

Give me The Twilight Saga, Harry Potter, Merlin etc… anytime and escape to a world where anything is possible, exciting and fun.

I understand appreciating fiction and ‘getting away’ but there are levels one should adhere to.

This situation is not simply ‘picked apart’ but it is under serious question for those who can accept paranormal/human love vs surrealistic situations vs/fictional situations.

For Bella and Edward to have finally consumated their relationship is entirely believeable. For them to conceive a child?! For a good handfull + this is far beyond explanation.

Needing to escape ‘real life’ via fiction (aka a book/story)? Therapy is suggested.

Fiction is fiction. Some of you need to look it up. It is NOT ‘real’ so those who can look at a situation in fiction with realisim? That is ok as long as it is fiction BASED ON FACT. Even then, it needs to be explored. None of these books/stories are based on fact. They are written from a DREAM and expounded upon.

Stephenie’s explanation re Vampire pregnancy is good enough for me, I did not care for the why and how etc etc… blah blah blah… really…..
I love the Saga for what it is. A fantastic read, all four books from the Twilight series has been included in USA Today’s Best-Selling Books list in the last 12 months. Twilight, New Moon, Eclipse and Breaking Dawn have been in the top 10 for 52 consecutive weeks.
All books have been in the top 4 spots for a total of 13 weeks in the past year. The Twilight books are expected to dominate the list until 2010. Stephenie should NOT even have HAD to explain it, “set forth in detail” or “ interpret”!! Fiction IS imagined-invented- a made up story. No need to make sense. Fiction does NOT need to BE BASED ON FACT!! NO need to look it up and nothing needs to be adhered to. People love the Twilight Saga for what it is, no therapy is needed for anyone who loves fiction. We were given imagination for a reason, to dream, for magic. Example : What about Santa Clause? We tell our children Santa delivers presents to ALL children in the whole world in one night with reindeers flying a sleigh. Santa is imagined, invented, a made up story, and just seeing the children’s faces Christmas morning and uhhh’s and ahhh’s…. Well that’s what the lovers of the Twilight Saga did and still do the uhhh’s the ahhh’s who really cared in the end how Bella became pregnant, gee, we had to wait 4 books and wedding for them to finally get it on,lol and I loved it, when she was pregnant, not for one second, did I go “Hang on a minute , how can Bella becomes pregnant “pfff” minor detail, I just wanted to know what happens next , OMG
Best Selling books list, Top 10 for 52 Consecutive weeks.
No nothing needs to be explored or expounded…..
I for one would not be here logged on to TA calling myself a Twilight Fan if I thought it did in any way shape or form.

… boy … with edward getting ready to walk into the sun with no shirt and his pants all but falling off.. looks real and alive to me… ;o)

I couldn’t have said it better myself TwilightMom Australia! I never once questioned the hows or any of that stuff because it is just a wonderful story you can escape into where things just happen because almost everything in it is supernatural/magical and don’t really need explaining. After I read Breaking Dawn, I checked out Stephenie’s little tidbits on her website regarding the book and read her explanation for it. I just accepted her explanation even though I honestly didn’t even care if she explained herself at all for it because it’s not real anyway. She could have just said it was just a miracle rather than go into the sciences of it and I would have accepted that too.

I can understand nitpicking non-fiction books for facts and details, but when it comes to fictional books, I like to just sit back, relax, and take it for what it is, a wonderful story/fairytale. Once I start nitpicking a great story like that, it starts to to feel more like I’m doing homework than just enjoying a good read.

When you first read Breaking Dawn and realized that Bella was pregnant, how did you react?

Okay, Edward is what… 107 years old. Now tell me why he didn’t use protection. Tell me why they BOTH didn’t use protection. That was very tdiodic and careless of them. She deserved to be beat up from the inside out for being so stupid. But whatever that’s just my view on the subject…

Just because the book is fiction does not mean it doesn’t have to make sense. Of course we all know that it’s made up but do you really have to blow it out of proportion with a pregnancy that was supposedly never supposed to happen. i liked the twist but it could have made more sense. And the books are realistic not a complete made up thing. SM created a world of her own and created her own rules now why can’t she stick to them?

Thank you Caroline

I’m with Twi-Mom Australia, Fiction is just that, fiction, if you want read fact based books read Non=Fiction.

I find Stephenie’s explanation plausible, if you have an imagination and let yourself just go with it. It’s not a PHD Research project that needs stand up to scientific scrutiny. It’s a story and she put forth her theroy as to why Bella conceived.
Yea, the vamps are frozen, hard as marble,(the guys, get it?)guys have fluid all the time. The females bodies can’t expand to accommodate a baby and if they were not ovulating when they were changed they never would( Leah’s dilemma too); but they all have fluid/venom. It’s used to heal….Bella’s injuries in Breaking Dawn, hence reproducing cells/new healed cells/bones,skin.
I can see it, if you let yourself you can to. Just let yourself, people that can’t get lost in a fiction book are missing the ability to put them self in someone else’s place, so sad. I don’t think anyone that wants to loose them self in another world or fantasy does not need therapy, they want to go somewhere that is totally different and spend time where things are imagined.

No Therapy needed here, just like minded friends that can enjoy a good story.

I totally agree with Twilight Mom Australia. Why you need to delve into the whole pregnancy thing and examine it to its core is ridiculous, it’s fiction. When I realized that she was pregnant, I was happy for them and Bella’s thoughts on how it could happen to her and not a woman who was a vampire, was good enough for me.

I never really thought about the fluids in the vampires, really didn’t feel it was that important overall. SM’s explanation is good, so I’m just going with it. It sounds plausible and, again, it’s fiction.

I love fiction and I love getting lost but for some reason this particular story line had me wondering- it was (and still not is) so distracting that it took away from the story itself. However, the realist in me *did* question the pregnancy and it’s possibilities.

In my orginal comment I made this statement:
“Though I can appreciate where Stephenie comes from on the angle of the story I have to accept the pregnancy angle entirely on the fiction factor alone.”

I completely, totally, 110% accept the fiction factor. However! My (personal- since that is what is being asked for…personal opinions on the story line) opinion is that the majority of fiction based situations stem with some sort of factual base.

Maybe you all missed why I said what I did in my second comment? Here is why I said what I did:
“Leave that to the “realists” of the world. Let them pick on every little thing that “can’t be real” or “explained” leave it to the people who have no “imagination” whatsoever, poor them how boring is their world,ha..”

Heike suggests those of us that are able to question the story line are people who have no imagination and even says we are boring because of it.

That is why I said what I did in my second post.

Thank you, Marianne and glo

twilightmama:
I say, no imagination and boring, some realists truly are, I know some.
You say Theraphy suggested I say NO.
That’s our (personal- since that is what is being asked for…personal opinions

??? responded: No name??
ok your view,
BUT
Bella and Edward DID get married FIRST. Helloo…
Bella did not get pregnant OUT of wedlock, so NO she is NOT idiotic, stupid or careless. SHE WAS A MARRIED WOMAN. But whatever that is MY opinion on that subject…..

Haha i love stephenie. “I have an immature, Homer Simpson-like tendency to giggle when i say ‘seminal fluids’ in public.” lol. I cant remember what it was like when i first found out Bella would get pregnant, because i got spoilers from a friend telling me the name and everything. But i bet i went ‘whoa’ and all that. I have actually wondered how the, uhh, ‘fertilisation’, would work, but never the rest of the fluids in the body. haha.

Paging Dr. Cullen….you are needed STAT for an inservice on Vampire fertility………sorry I couldn’t help my self. LOL,LOL.

I hated the idea that Bella got pregnant. She didn’t really want kids, I realize that she is young and isn’t mature enough to understand that she may in the future. Edward hated their spawn and wanted it out,so I hated the whole scenario. I got over it though and realized that it made everything complete. Now Jacob had someone to love and I love that,YAY!

Heike: make sense in your response and I might understand you.

“twilightmama:
I say, no imagination and boring, some realists truly are, I know some.
You say Theraphy suggested I say NO.
That’s our (personal- since that is what is being asked for…personal opinions

??? responded: No name??
ok your view,
BUT
Bella and Edward DID get married FIRST. Helloo…
Bella did not get pregnant OUT of wedlock, so NO she is NOT idiotic, stupid or careless. SHE WAS A MARRIED WOMAN. But whatever that is MY opinion on that subject….. ”

I can’t follow more than a word or two of your rant here.

twilightmama :
I think what Heike means is that, she knows some realists who truly do lack imagination and that some are boring. Because with no imagination some have to nitpick on everything that does not “make sense” to them rather than enjoying a great FICTON story like The Twilight Saga. In regards to Heike’s comment: You say Therapy suggested I say NO. Heike means that you ,yourself twilightmama said:quote Needing to escape ‘real life’ via fiction (aka a book/story)? Therapy is suggested. Heike said NO. No need for therapy needed. Also in your words: No 14 Post you said:quote (personal- since that is what is being asked for…personal opinions on the story line)
You have your personal opinion, Heike has hers. BUT when you said:quote “Maybe you all missed why I said what I did in my second comment?”
That sounded condescending. I think perhaps that’s why Heike responded the way she did.
Short and sharp. I understood what she meant.There was no rant.
People come here to TA because they love The Twilight Saga, the books, the Movie’s ,The Cast etc… and yes we can all have our own spin on things and our own opinion but when they become condescending and patronizing towards the other posts that love and accept a great FICTION story where vampires/humans can have babies,who cares how ,minor detail, shapeshifters who become wolfs. Read to enjoy and not read to analyze everything.
Like Carolinesaid:quote Once I start nitpicking a great story like that, it starts to feel more like I’m doing homework than just enjoying a good read. Thank you Caroline

And by this:
????responded No Name???
That was not meant for you twilightmama, That was meant for the No.9 response they used ??? and no name to respond re Bella’s pregnancy. And I agree with Heike ,Bella and Edward were not idiotic, careless or stupid. They were married.

Heike, I followed and understood every word you said

And twilightmama your quote:
Heike: make sense in your response and I might understand you.
I can’t follow more than a word or two of your rant here.

Sounds condescending and/or patronizing to me.

Exactly

Thank you TwiMomAus:):)

You’re welcome,Heike.

Marianne:
Paging Dr Cullen….STAT,lol…

Marianne, your comment about paging Dr. Cullen gave me a good laugh. That was great, thanks!!!

I liked the way Bella thought she had no imagination because she didn’t know she wanted something until it happened to her. I think that can be said about things that happen to us all the time, that you would never have thought you wanted or be happy about a particular something until it happens. I felt that was an interesting thought.

Whoever this ??? person is, hello they are married, so they’re not stupid.

Ha, Ha, anytime glo.

Both Heike and Twi- Mom Australia and others have valid points about just enjoying a piece of fiction for what it is, and no way should anyone feel that they need therapy if they want to escape reality in a book for a while. That remark was totally uncalled for and by the way Twilightmamma have you ever heard of the expression “go to your happy place”?

It’s just a book. Some of us wish not but it’s just a book. Bella got married and had Nessi i don’t see a prob with that.

Sincerely
Linaneta

um, well, i just totally learned somethin' new!!!!!!!! thanks 4 teachin me bout vampire sex!!!!!!!!